tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14818100.post115039974687328373..comments2024-01-05T22:20:39.218-06:00Comments on CHATTER: SUPREMES: NO KNOCK NEEDEDRon Davishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12099772730874178834noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14818100.post-1150485793100641362006-06-16T14:23:00.000-05:002006-06-16T14:23:00.000-05:00Knock and announce guards the privacy we tradition...Knock and announce guards the privacy we traditionally associate with our homes. It permits us to wrap a towel around ourselves, cease engaging in sexual activity, wipe the chocolate from our chins, or flush the toilet before we answer the door. It protects us from mistakes, such as when an officer has the wrong address. These things are not small matters -- it only seems so when we talk in terms of "purps" (surely you mean "perps"?) instead of people or, even innocent people (a warrant is not proof of guilt).<BR/><BR/>Moreover, if you read the knock and announce caselaw (as I am sure you do not have time to do, as you apparently log so many hours accompanying police on raids), you would see that the time the police must give you to put on a clean shirt is minimal; no time to load up, I'm afraid.<BR/><BR/>Basic dignity is not too much to ask, for anyone. How easy and dangerous it is to give up our rights when we believe it's only happening to those we consider to be less than people. <BR/><BR/>Christ.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14818100.post-1150460827623026782006-06-16T07:27:00.000-05:002006-06-16T07:27:00.000-05:00That anon neocon dittohead troll must be the loudm...That anon neocon dittohead troll must be the loudmouth Canadian-German talker. Phrasing gives it away. That and the lack of logic.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13441809988487585009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14818100.post-1150459405567486922006-06-16T07:03:00.000-05:002006-06-16T07:03:00.000-05:00For a raid the police close off all exits before t...For a raid the police close off all exits before the even approach the front door....I have seen the SGFD PD in action in my hood on numerous occassions...they are not as stupid as the conservative suggests....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14818100.post-1150447432561631042006-06-16T03:43:00.000-05:002006-06-16T03:43:00.000-05:00"I do. Many police officers fear for their lives. ..."I do. Many police officers fear for their lives. If you give a criminal those extra 10 to twenty seconds it provides them an opportunity to either dispose of evidence or more importantly - load a few bullets into their weapons - or preposition themselves to shoot on coming officers. <BR/><BR/>Then there is the obvious - the person escapes out the back door."<BR/><BR/><BR/>Anon: You are saying that the cops are incompetent? Or stupid? Or both? And need to employ some gestapo tactics to do thier job? Do your friends know you think so little of them?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13441809988487585009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14818100.post-1150436833341589722006-06-16T00:47:00.000-05:002006-06-16T00:47:00.000-05:00You think Shak.Ever thought for a moment that you ...You think Shak.<BR/><BR/>Ever thought for a moment that you and Mr. Davis are using scare tactics?<BR/><BR/>Naw, say it isnt so!<BR/><BR/>@doc: Engaging in responsive thought isn't being trollish. I could be if you wanted me to be.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14818100.post-1150434858116098992006-06-16T00:14:00.000-05:002006-06-16T00:14:00.000-05:00Tee hee! Chatter's got dittohead trolls! And they ...Tee hee! Chatter's got dittohead trolls! And they really need to learn English.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13441809988487585009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14818100.post-1150433523135496232006-06-15T23:52:00.000-05:002006-06-15T23:52:00.000-05:00The vast majority of drug busts do not involve gun...The vast majority of drug busts do not involve guns or ambushes of officers. You are using a typical conservative scare tactic. Busting into a home is a home invasion and now when police make mistakes and raid the wrong address..people will die defending their homes...nice moveAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14818100.post-1150430610963847842006-06-15T23:03:00.000-05:002006-06-15T23:03:00.000-05:00Hey mr. davis. I had one other thought.Maybe if it...Hey mr. davis. I had one other thought.<BR/><BR/>Maybe if it is so evil for police to announce and not have to wait for the purp to set up an ambush maybe our legislatures should do their job and make it part of the law.<BR/><BR/>Making legislatures do their job is not a bad thing, you know.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14818100.post-1150428467302580882006-06-15T22:27:00.000-05:002006-06-15T22:27:00.000-05:00Do you know any police officers? Do you know what ...Do you know any police officers? Do you know what happens in a drug bust? Do you know the precise situation?<BR/><BR/>I do. Many police officers fear for their lives. If you give a criminal those extra 10 to twenty seconds it provides them an opportunity to either dispose of evidence or more importantly - load a few bullets into their weapons - or preposition themselves to shoot on coming officers. <BR/><BR/>Then there is the obvious - the person escapes out the back door.<BR/><BR/>These are not talking points. This is the truth of the matter.<BR/><BR/>There is no destruction of anyone's rights happening. In fact, the additional ten to twenty seconds talked about is completely arbitrary when it gets right down to it.<BR/><BR/>And yes, I am sorry, but this is a case of drive by media.. shooting their mouth off without known what the devil they are talking about -typical to the last.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14818100.post-1150411823962373732006-06-15T17:50:00.000-05:002006-06-15T17:50:00.000-05:00Anon:Nice use of the typical Dittohead talking poi...Anon:<BR/><BR/>Nice use of the typical Dittohead talking points. "Drive-by media," however, is already a cliché. Learn some new ones.<BR/><BR/>As O'Connor noted when she heard the argument, police will now be more likely to bust in to execute search warrants, now that SCOTUS has ruled a knock is not necessary.<BR/><BR/>A country where police serve warrants by busting down doors does not sound like America.Ron Davishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12099772730874178834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14818100.post-1150409826156979682006-06-15T17:17:00.000-05:002006-06-15T17:17:00.000-05:00Talk about legislating from the bench! Not that th...Talk about legislating from the bench! <BR/>Not that this law will ever effect me, but still, since we live in a country where one is presumed innocent until proven guilty and we are supposed to have some right to privacy, would it be too much to allow a person the courtesy to answer the door instead of having it blasted across the living room?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14818100.post-1150408445264952522006-06-15T16:54:00.000-05:002006-06-15T16:54:00.000-05:00Use your brain, please.The problem is that they wa...Use your brain, please.<BR/><BR/>The problem is that they want to give people a longer waiting time to do what ever - it has nothing to do with search and seizure.<BR/><BR/>In this case, the police yelled to open up - there was no response and the guys went charging in.<BR/><BR/>Lets say that this was a drug ring and the police yelled open up and had to wait 30 seconds (breyer said 20 as a pose to five). In that time criminal elements could be planning an ambush and be ready to kill those officers. <BR/><BR/>That is not a pretend scenario.<BR/><BR/>Also, you did not note that there still must be a warrant. The only part of anything this case addresses is that the police have to wait ten to twenty seconds longer. A difference which could make a life and death difference for a police officer.<BR/><BR/>Nice job with the drive by media attempt. Typical.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com